X350d vs Amarok V6

Chris B

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As MBSA is not interested to import more overlanding G's we will have to focus more on the X-class.........

 

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Engine is Mercedes-Benz OM642 and not Nissan. Much difference in suspension setup, NVH, etc. Badge engineering has been with us since 1933, courtesy GM. Isuzu used to build Toyota Diesel engines in their Hokkaido factory. Many Toyota's are actually Suzuki, Hino, Subaru, Daihatsu or even BMW. The first FJ40/FJ45 in South Africa in the early 1970's came with GM 3.8 or 4.1l engines, complete with 3-spd manual gearboxes. To this day, Toyota fits Mercedes-Benz OM304 engines to the FJ45 Bandeirante built at their plant in Brazil. The Mazda BT-50, in turn, is a rebadged Isuzu D-Max. My own tough little Ford Laser was a rebadged Mazda 323. So, wherein lies the harm?
Sure!

Pitty that it is a Badge Engineered Nissan.
 

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Engine is Mercedes-Benz OM642 and not Nissan. Much difference in suspension setup, NVH, etc. Badge engineering has been with us since 1933, courtesy GM. Isuzu used to build Toyota Diesel engines in their Hokkaido factory. Many Toyota's are actually Suzuki, Hino, Subaru, Daihatsu or even BMW. The first FJ40/FJ45 in South Africa in the early 1970's came with GM 3.8 or 4.1l engines, complete with 3-spd manual gearboxes. To this day, Toyota fits Mercedes-Benz OM304 engines to the FJ45 Bandeirante built at their plant in Brazil. The Mazda BT-50, in turn, is a rebadged Isuzu D-Max. My own tough little Ford Laser was a rebadged Mazda 323. So, wherein lies the harm?
MB offered the X Class with 3 engines - 2 of the 3 were Nissan/Renault engines - only the V6 was a proper Merc engine.

I dont mind proper collaboration between different brand engineering teams - but to take a Navara body, stick a Renault engien in there and add a Merc badge and then ask a 30% premium -- sorry thats not my opinion of a Merc. The rather buy the Nissan at a discount.
 

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MB offered the X Class with 3 engines - 2 of the 3 were Nissan/Renault engines - only the V6 was a proper Merc engine.

I dont mind proper collaboration between different brand engineering teams - but to take a Navara body, stick a Renault engien in there and add a Merc badge and then ask a 30% premium -- sorry thats not my opinion of a Merc. The rather buy the Nissan at a discount.
Agree! The price premium isn't really sweetening the deal.

I must choose between two 2017 models with 82,000km each:
1. G350d in mint condition, R1.3m + 2 year warranty
2, GLC 350d no wty both out of maintenance plan. No spare wheel.....

Use case: mostly tar, some back roads, sometimes middelmannetjies, never serious 4x4. I am 60+, done playing. Even a 4x4 bakkie or little Jimny would suffice, but let's be realistic....if I buy either of the two Benz's, it will be my 6th. Not sure a 5-dr Jimny would be very happy. After this weekend, I'd better make up my mind.

Some A-class also had Nissan/Renault engines.
 

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PeterG

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Having a G350d and having also driven a two door Jimny (new model) as well, I would suggest to think very carefully about possibly buying the Jimmy.
My honest opiniuon, you will be disappointed. The Jimny a great vehicle however if you have had 5 MB's, I think you may be disappointed with the change to a Jimny.
 
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